1st calls was with recruiter - a really nice and engaging call 2nd call was with two of the team members. It felt it was a tick box exercise. It didn’t seem that they know what they were doing, zero engagement or smiles, had no idea about the interview structure after, etc. They called it exploration call but it was far from that - no engagement, no interest showed in me as a person, some strange questions irrelevant to the industry and my experience. In addition to this, their external HR consultant joined the call which was a bit strange! If a consultant joins a call then I’d expect basics of interviewing people. The overall experience was they have no idea what they are doing and what they require.